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Hålla Dagdrömma

a brief interview with

marie-therese Cristan-perriman

the below is excerpted from the June 1980 issue of 'Mardrömsterapi,' in which the noted pataphysician RUMINATES ON many subjects including, briefly, dr. dagdrömma.

1. How did you hear about Nietzsche in Shapes and Colors? Is this a book you read as a child?


No, I discovered it in the process of researching another Swedish children’s book from the 70’s that featured complex, labor intensive craft projects as an alternative form of punishment for bad behavior.

That's a subject for a whole other interview (laughs), but obviously it wasn't long before my research led me to the Nietzsche book.


2. Were you familiar with Dr. Dagdromma's work prior to discovering the book?


No, though I do remember hearing of her disappearance in Germany in 1979. She was hitchhiking from a Psychokinesis Symposium with Dr. Berthelemy de Quitte-Boeuf. The story goes that she stopped to admire the graduation tower in Bad Dürrenberg on her way to the Leipzig train station to get to the 29th Annual Berlin Film Festival, hoping to catch Fassbinder’s The Marriage of Maria Braun.

When Dagdrömma failed to show, fellow academics in attendance at the Fassbinder screening believed she had either lost track of time at the graduation tower or took a voluntary long-term sabbatical. All I can say is that it was the 70’s and when academics disappeared, it was generally accepted that they were on long-term sabbatical.

'it was the 70’s, and when academics disappeared, it was generally accepted that they were on long-term sabbatical.'

3. Do you find academic philosophy has any practical role-in child rearing?  Nietzschean or otherwise?


Yes. Children have a very unique perspective that can sometimes be taken for granted because they lack the academic vocabulary to express complex or novel ideas.


Take the metaphor of the camel, lion and child in the metamorphoses of the spirit in Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra. The lion asks why it must become a child and Zarathustra says, “A child is innocence and forgetting, a new beginning, a game, a wheel that propels itself, a first movement, a sacred Yes. Yes, for the game of creating, my brothers, a sacred Yes must be uttered: the spirit now wills its own will, the one who had lost the world attains his own world.”


Maybe Nietzschean philosophy is less relevant to child-raising and more relevant to raising ourselves, as adults to be more like children.

I think that's what Halla would say, if she were here today.

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